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Katie: Hi there and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from WellnessMama.com. And this episode is all a few useful medication tackle intestine well being, thyroid well being, and decreasing autoimmunity with Dr. Amy Myers. And we go in lots of instructions on this podcast. She is a two-time bestselling creator and internationally acclaimed medical and useful medication doctor who focuses on empowering these with autoimmune, thyroid and digestive points to take again their well being and reverse their situation. And he or she additionally did two and a half years with the Peace Corps in Paraguay.
And he or she set off on a journey that may lead her to later launch her now well-known useful medication clinic and her instructional content material and line of applications that yow will discover on-line. And we go deep about lots of her specialty on this, together with her personal drastic story with standard medication and why she feels it failed her and the way she’s vowed to assist it not fail folks sooner or later. We speak concerning the frequent triggers and causes within the rise of persistent illness, why she defines autoimmunity as a spectrum and the commonalities amongst them, how one can know the place you’re on the spectrum. She talks concerning the 5 components that may contribute, that are toxins, infections, intestine points, weight loss plan and stress, why three quarters of the triggers and causes should not genetic and are inside our management to alter.
We speak concerning the energy of the thoughts and the way a lot our internal voice pertains to well being, and he or she shares most likely probably the most profound instance of this I’ve heard. She talks about her 4 pillars of useful well being, how one can deal with and take away toxins within the physique, how our intestine cells flip over each 24-48 hours to allow them to really restore in a short time, why we’d like a variety of meals for intestine variety, together with issues like greens, spices, and herbs, and when to keep away from fermented meals, how one can know which plant meals are greatest to your particular genes and ancestral wants, how seasonal consuming may also help with intestine well being, and how one can apply the 80/20 precept to optimum dwelling. So let’s soar in with Dr. Amy Myers. Dr. Amy, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here.
Dr Amy Myers: Thanks for having me, Katie. I’m tremendous excited.
Katie: Me too, I really feel like this dialog is lengthy overdue and I’m extraordinarily excited to study from you right this moment. I believe to start out off broad, some background on you may really be probably the most useful place to begin for this dialog since you’ve mentioned that standard medication failed you and also you’re on a mission to maintain it from failing different folks. And I believe your story illustrates a extremely profound purpose why you do the work that you just do. So let’s begin there. How did you get into this, what’s now your complete world and this work that you just do?
Dr Amy Myers: Yeah, nicely, it’s a really lengthy story, however to make it quick, I grew up with mother and father that had been very holistic. My father was a professor of Asian research. My mom taught yoga and jogged again within the 70s. And so if we had been ever sick, which was very hardly ever, he took Chinese language herbs. My mom was very acquainted with the microbiome, made selfmade yogurt after we had been little, selfmade complete wheat bread. So I type of grew up with this. My mom taught yoga, meditation, despatched me to Transcendental Meditation after I was in highschool. So I type of grew up in a, I wouldn’t classify them as hippies, however simply type of, you already know, that type of world.
And I went to school, thought I used to be gonna be a psychologist on the finish, determined that I wasn’t gonna try this and have become a banker of all issues. After which learn a e book referred to as, The Highway Much less Traveled, it actually resonated with me about type of going on the market and never doing what all people else is doing. And for no matter purpose, I at all times had a ardour to offer and to assist. And so I joined the Peace Corps really after I was 25. And on my method all the way down to the Peace Corps, I learn a e book by Andrew Weil, Spontaneous Therapeutic, and it obtained me reinvigorated by way of pure therapeutic, herbs, issues like that. Taught myself yoga down within the Peace Corps.
Lengthy story quick, got here again and determined I needed to be a health care provider. I really moved out to Seattle to go to doubtlessly naturopathic medical faculty. And after working with some medical doctors there, realized that even in Seattle, the traditional medical doctors and the naturopathic medical doctors had been getting paid in another way and simply seen in another way. And I believed, nicely, that is type of odd as a result of I’m out within the place the place they’ve this faculty and so they’re imagined to be actually revered. And so anyway, I made the choice to go to allopathic medical faculty, however with the concept that I’d find yourself doing one thing holistic, pure on the finish of all of it. So I took all my electives of an integrative medication. I began a complimentary and different curiosity group. We even began a program on the college. I went to LSU in New Orleans.
And my second 12 months of medical faculty, I began getting panic assaults. I used to be dropping pounds quickly whereas consuming, you already know, Ezekiel bread and vegan butter at evening, to not get up, two kilos thinner. And at last had this tremor that despatched me to the physician and he or she brushed me off and mentioned, oh, that is medical faculty stress. Your second 12 months, you’re studying all these ailments and also you simply suppose you could have all of them. And I mentioned, wait a minute. I imply, I actually lived in the course of nowhere earlier than cell telephones or something within the Peace Corps. My mom had died unexpectedly of pancreatic most cancers in 4 months proper after I obtained again from the Peace Corps. It’s like, I don’t deal with stress like this. This isn’t stress, one thing’s mistaken with me.
So I demanded a workup and he or she referred to as me again a few weeks later and I don’t suppose she actually apologized and he or she mentioned, oh, you could have Graves’ illness, which is an autoimmune dysfunction of your thyroid. And that was what was responsible for all of my signs, the insomnia, the burden loss, the entire tremor, every little thing. And so I used to be given three horrible selections. One was to have my thyroid blown up like Hiroshima. The opposite was to take actually poisonous remedy. And the opposite one was to have my thyroid reduce out.
So I went again to my roots and I did Chinese language medication for a few months and I didn’t actually see a distinction in that. In the meantime, I used to be consuming numerous gluten and vegan cheeses. I used to be a vegetarian and on and off vegan for 27 years. After which in the end I succumbed and I mentioned, all proper, I’ll take the remedy. It appears to be the lesser of all of those evils. Inside a few weeks, I used to be feeling horrible. My pores and skin was dry, my hair was falling out, I used to be fatigued. Went again to the physician and I used to be informed that I used to be one in one million and I had poisonous hepatitis from the medicine. So I rapidly needed to get off of that. I practically needed to drop out of medical faculty as a result of I needed to go get in mattress and my liver was destroying itself from this remedy, and principally had to determine was I then gonna have my thyroid blown up or have it ripped out surgically.
I reached out to Andrew Weil, I regarded in all of the analysis, I might discover nothing that gave me another or pure strategy to this. So I made the toughest determination of my life and I had my thyroid radioactively ablated.
And after that, I used to be nonetheless in medical faculty. I graduated, I turned an ER doctor at Shock Trauma in Maryland, after which in the end an ER doctor right here in Austin, Texas. And… Someday I simply mentioned, I’ve obtained to get again to my roots. I imply, although they, standard medication, handled my graves by blowing up my thyroid, and now I don’t have a thyroid, there’s gotta be one thing higher. I’ve gotta get again to. I went to medical faculty within the first place.
So I went to a convention about useful medication, which is actually attending to the basis of why you could have sure situations, significantly autoimmunity and determining how one can right imbalances at that route and in the end hopefully reversing or therapeutic, no matter’s happening with you. So that basically resonated with me and why I needed to go to medical faculty to start with. And so I dove straight in and ultimately opened up a world famend useful medication clinic.
I left the ER, wrote a number of books, that are behind me and, and, you already know, went full pressure into useful medication and now helped actually a whole lot of hundreds of individuals all over the world, however actually hundreds of individuals with Graves illness reverse their situation and never should do what I did. In order that’s why I say it’s my standard medication failed me and is my mission to not have it fail you too. In order that was a little bit of a protracted story, however that’s how I obtained to turning into a useful medication doctor after which in the end now proudly owning a well being and wellness firm. As you already know, Amy Myers MD.
Katie: Oh, and there’s so many particular instructions I need to go on this, as a result of I do know there are various folks listening who’ve some type of auto-immunity or thyroid points. There are positively folks going by way of intestine points. And I additionally know that there are most likely some frequent themes that run all through lots of these issues. So I’d love to speak first about what you see as a number of the massive triggers or contributors to the rise throughout the board in lots of these issues that we’re seeing actually in America, however in different components of the world as nicely.
Dr Amy Myers: So by way of all persistent situations and autoimmunity, so I write about in my first e book, the autoimmune resolution, I used to be the person who coined the phrase, the autoimmune spectrum. So by that’s, you could have somebody down right here with little to no irritation, and then you definitely’re working your method up larger on the spectrum with extra irritation all the best way to full blown persistent autoimmunity.
Now there are most likely only a few folks have completely no irritation as we all know, infants are being born with toxins and whatnot on this planet, however most of us sit someplace on this spectrum all the best way as much as persistent illness or persistent autoimmunity. And there are 5 components that I write about in each of my books, and that’s toxins, infections, our intestine, leaky intestine, meals, since our weight loss plan, and stress. And so I can stroll by way of every of those and the way they’ve actually all of those areas have exploded for many people. We all know that there are extra toxins on this planet than there’ve ever been, proper? We all know that now taking a look at research with twine blood that there are various, many toxins already in utero when a child is born. So, and people toxins are rising each day. And in order for you, we will get into why that’s.
We’re, you already know, lots of youngsters are already being, infants are being born with leaky guts. Extra youngsters are being born with C-sections. Extra mothers are getting antibiotics, you already know, when in utero and getting these toxins, consuming a weight loss plan that’s inflammatory. So infants are already being born with, you already know, little intestine microbiome or a disturbed microbiome with C-sections and simply, you already know, how we’re going by way of the world.
Our weight loss plan, we, you already know, processed meals. We had been simply at an enormous water park yesterday and looking out round, I imply, the variety of people who I noticed that had been simply in weight. And I imply, I’m not even speaking trying match was only a few. So we’re already, you already know, we’re many, many individuals in our society now are simply consuming very inflammatory diets with these overly processed meals. As you already know, the wheat has been modified. And so there’s extra gluten in our wheat. There’s roundup in our meals. And so we’re already having inflammatory meals. Leaky guys had been having extra toxins.
We’re dwelling in a stressed world. Now we have EMFs bombarding as we’ve our cell telephones on always had been obtainable. The stressors dealing with us day-after-day of simply elevated as nicely. After which infections increasingly infections, proper? I imply, we noticed, you already know, with the pandemic with Covid. I imply, we’ve these Infections, whether or not they’re viruses, the Parasites, their micro organism, they’re turning into tremendous bugs, they’re turning into reactivated, they’re turning into, you already know, they’re dwelling inside ourselves and presumably getting reactivated over time. How many individuals are you aware which have had COVID a number of instances? So what’s that doing to our immune methods?
And positively, I hope on this dialog, we’ll get into the options as a result of I’d by no means prefer to, inform folks massive, scary ideas and that, and simply to get them overwhelmed as a result of I’m actually a options oriented individual.
However these are the issues that I see which are actually contributing to autoimmunity and simply persistent irritation that’s resulting in, weight problems that’s resulting in… dysregulation of our metabolism that’s resulting in diabetes, you already know, all of those very persistent and admittedly preventable ailments that we’ve now.
Katie: Yeah, such as you, I believe it is a very multifaceted downside. And I like that you just take a multifaceted strategy as a result of I’ve seen many individuals wanna deal with simply a type of areas. And positively if it had been simply weight loss plan, I take a look at the information and say like, our diets really haven’t modified sufficient to justify the rise in weight problems, even alone or diabetes. There’s clearly many components contributing, but in addition I do know, and I do know you communicate to this lots as nicely. Such as you mentioned, there are various options and there nonetheless is capability to stay optimally when you could have the data to do this.
I additionally really feel such as you had been forward of the pattern, you and your mother and father with the meditation aspect, you talked about stress being an enormous issue. And never that that’s by any means a cure-all, however I’d say the overwhelming majority of people that come on this podcast even talked about meditation as being a extremely useful device. And we all know that like psychological well being and mindset additionally impacts our bodily physique and the analysis appears to only enhance on that. I’d guess many individuals can also resonate with even your story of getting to demand a workup out of your physician. I hear from so many mothers and girls who know one thing’s mistaken and are disregarded. I had the identical expertise being informed every little thing’s advantageous, your thyroid is regular and having to demand very particular checks to even get a solution.
After which from there to determine options largely alone, as a result of I didn’t have a you shut by in my early phases that might assist me get there extra rapidly. So I really like that we now have a lot extra data and other people such as you who’re serving to folks get particular focused data. I’d like to go just a little deeper past, I really like as an example, that you just outline autoimmunity as a spectrum. I believe that’s a extremely useful device versus a easy sure or no, do or don’t type of reply.
However then inside that, there are such a lot of classes of autoimmunity. So are there frequent causes that may type of present up within the physique in another way based mostly on genetics as an example, or do issues appear to line up with like particular triggers creating extra particular forms of autoimmunity?
Dr Amy Myers: It is a nice query. I imply, the analysis reveals that, you already know, actually solely 20% is genetic based mostly. I imply, again within the day, we thought as all of us, I’m positive you’ve talked many instances in your podcast about epigenetics. You had this gene, you bought this illness. We now know that these genes may be turned on and off, and these SNPs. And we all know that folks, even with out the genes for Celiac, can really get Celiac. So it’s not all concerning the genes. In reality, about 75% of it’s these environmental components that I simply talked about. And in order that’s really probably the most empowering a part of all of this, is that’s in your management.
And that’s actually what I speak about in all of my books is about, as an alternative of getting laden by all of this data, take into consideration that, two thirds or three fourths of it’s in your management and issues that you are able to do to alter, which is how we’re capable of reverse autoimmunity.
So again to the autoimmune, I imply, I might see three folks with, let’s simply say Hashimoto’s or Graves. And the explanation that these three folks have that very same illness might be for vastly totally different causes. One might actually simply have a gluten sensitivity and leaky intestine and we get them off gluten, heal their intestine and their antibodies are reversing for Hashimoto’s.
The opposite might be that they’re in a, very nerve-racking relationship and a horrible job and stress is their largest set off and so they even have a gluten sensitivity. After which the third individual might have all 5 of them. I imply, I do know that all through my lifetime and issues have come and gone, I positively had all 5. And by the point I used to be seeing folks with seven, eight autoimmune situations, after all they typically had all 5.
However in standard medication, as we’re taught to listen to a illness, identify the illness, give a drug, we’re not even thought to ask about what’s happening or search for the deeper root trigger. However even when we had been, I’m positive they’d be saying, oh, nicely, it’s Hashimoto’s and these are your solely causes. And it’s merely not true. I imply, I noticed it day in and time out in my clinic of simply, how individuals are coming.
Now, I’d say based mostly on the literature and the analysis of Alessio Fasano, given gluten and autoimmunity and the idea behind molecular mimicry, and in case your listeners don’t know what that’s, I’m completely satisfied to enter it, I do advocate that everyone who’s on the spectrum has antibodies or has really been identified with autoimmunity get off of gluten due to these cross-reactivity on this molecular mimicry. It’s so very sturdy, significantly with thyroid situations or autoimmune thyroid situations. In order that’s why I did point out gluten in every of these examples as a result of the correlation is so excessive that I do advocate all people who has autoimmunity be off of gluten.
Katie: That is smart. And positively like my mother and father, as an example, have seen that change themselves as they’ve gotten older and so they benefited from going off gluten. Although I do hear from lots of people that discover in sure different locations on this planet, they really appear to just do advantageous with sure meals that they can not eat within the U.S. And I’m curious if you happen to’ve had expertise with that and if you already know any of the explanation why is the meals provide that totally different somewhere else in comparison with the U.S.?
Dr Amy Myers: Yeah, so I too have heard that and I’ve traveled to Europe however due to my historical past and what I do know, I don’t tempt destiny and I don’t eat gluten after I’m in another country. I actually heard that point and time once more from sufferers in my clinic that they did that. However I additionally had a girl who was identified with polymyositis and he or she was doing very nicely. After which she went to Europe and he or she ate a bunch of gluten and didn’t really feel prefer it affected her however then she got here again and had a really massive flare. So in case you are identified with full-blown autoimmunity, I nonetheless wouldn’t advocate that you just try this. Nonetheless, the idea behind that is that they’ve a lot, let’s simply take Europe for instance, a lot stricter legal guidelines about utilizing Roundup, about genetically modifying their meals. They’re utilizing historic grains. They’re not utilizing the identical stage of pesticides. On the whole, they’re consuming a more healthy weight loss plan however apparently the wheat is extra of our historic wheat.
And simply to remind your listeners, so what occurred with our wheat is we didn’t modify it. We hybridized it. And after we hybridized it, it meant that this might be develop heartier, it might develop greater but it surely additionally had extra gluten in our wheat. And in order that’s actually a part of the issue is, and then you definitely add Roundup on prime of it, which is meant to, you already know, enhance the permeability of your mind, your intestine, the entire toxins with Roundup disrupt your microbiome, then we actually have this downside, proper? I imply, it’s not, it’s that our wheat has extra gluten in it, it’s that it’s stuffed with Roundup, it’s that we’re dwelling with leaky guts, most of us, after which we’re consuming a lot extra gluten.
So it’s in every little thing, not simply bread. It’s from our shampoos to the a lot of the sushi that has crab meat in it’s not actual crab meat, it’s really a glutinous, you already know, it’s really all gluten to create this mock crab meat, for instance. So we’re simply getting uncovered on so many various ranges and in such a extra intense method than our mother and father or actually our grandparents or nice grandparents.
Katie: And I’d like to now begin going by way of out of your ethos, the answer targeted type of information and contact factors of a few of these totally different situations. As a result of like I mentioned, I do know many individuals listening have or are experiencing a few of them.
And I’d say going in a single unrelated tip that I at all times give at first of this dialog is I discovered to shift my, even my speech and the way I speak to myself from as an alternative of claiming, “I’ve Hashimoto’s”, I’d say “I’m therapeutic from Hashimoto’s” simply because I really feel just like the mindset is a large piece as nicely. However on that notice, I really feel prefer it’s actually useful to have the instruments to know the way we’re going to heal from these varied issues.
And also you’ve talked about intestine well being as a foundational factor to lots of totally different situations. So I’d love to start out there and listen to out of your perspective, what are a number of the key issues that folks want to pay attention to and keep away from in the case of intestine well being? And what are a number of the key type of universally useful issues we will do to enhance our intestine well being?
Dr Amy Myers: Yeah, if I could digress to at least one story that hints to your speaks to your chatting with your self and it’s a very highly effective story of a girl in my clinic who had vitiligo and he or she had. She had moved right here from Africa and he or she labored and he or she had been below a really abusive excessive state of affairs and was capable of come into the nation due to that. After which she felt her want to offer again to the folks of her nation that had been additionally my immigrating into, into america was to be an interpreter.
And what I discovered from talking along with her was that she needed to, as an interpreter in a court docket of legislation, you must say, I this and I that not they, you must be the individual to interpret. And so what I noticed after going by way of many visits with this lady and never making lots of progress is that I believed that she was taking up every of these folks’s tales by saying, I, I this, I that. So she was reliving, although it was their trauma, she was reliving it as if it was her personal trauma. And I steered that she wanted to surrender her profession or her job. She didn’t take that frivolously, however anyway, about six months later, she referred to as again or emailed me again and mentioned that she lastly did and her vitiligo was beginning to resolve. So it’s simply chatting with what you had been saying and the ability of the thoughts of setting your self up for these, setting your physique, making ready your physique in any respect ranges, making ready yourselves for therapeutic. And that journey may be very totally different for everybody.
So again to the intestine. Nicely, let me say that I’ve 4 pillars within the Myers method, which is this system that I got here up with after working with tens of hundreds of sufferers. And the primary one is to eliminate gluten, grains and legumes. And I discussed the molecular mimicry with gluten grains. I do know legumes, you’ve most likely talked about this extensively, can have anti-nutrient properties. They will have lectins in them, issues that may irritate the intestine. I used to be a vegetarian for 27 years. I imply, I had lots of intestine dysbiosis happening.
After which there are infections comparable to Candida, SIBO which are ate up carbs, even when they’re wholesome carbs as beans and rice and issues like that. So I do advocate that folks give this stuff up, gluten indefinitely, however the grains and legumes, no less than for days or longer until they begin, heal your intestine after which we will dive into you particularly. There’s a 4 hour program with therapeutic your intestine and we’ll dive into that and the specifics that I take advantage of.
Then we need to tame the toxins and that’s actually about, look we stay in a poisonous world. So I like to recommend if you’ll be able to, to create an surroundings at dwelling, at your workplace, wherever you’re spending most time, that filters these. How will we get toxins? Nicely, we breathe them in, we get them in by way of our pores and skin and we ingest them in. So having HEPA air filters in your house if you happen to can, having water filtration not simply at your faucet but in addition you already know in your showers, utilizing all-natural toxin-free cleansing merchandise and wonder merchandise after which you already know ensuring you’re consuming natural. So did I get by way of pores and skin, breathe, yeah okay.
And then you definitely need to work to get them out, that’s my two-step course of. So that you need to, how do you get them out? You pee them out, you poop them out, you sweat them out. So that you need to ensure you’re peeing and pooping day-after-day, you need to ensure you’re exercising or doing infrared sauna, one thing to sweat day-after-day if you happen to can. After which you already know I take advantage of two dietary supplements that after all we’ve glutathione and coconut charcoal. So acetylated glutathione, you have to guarantee that it’s acetylated. Some folks use liposomal, I examined all of them in my clinic. I choose an acetylated glutathione for me personally and what I noticed discovered work greatest. After which you already know in order that pulls the toxins out after which one thing like coconut charcoal goes to bind it. So peeing, pooping, sweating each single day.
Then we need to relieve our stress. I don’t say, you already know, eliminate your stress or, you already know, as a result of we stay in a nerve-racking world and you may’t simply say, okay, I’m not gonna be pressured. You’ve obtained to seek out methods to offer pause. So I’ve relieve stress and heal infections. And relieving stress is actually concerning the issues that we talked about. And look, I discovered meditation, you already know, 30-something years in the past and I don’t at all times try this day-after-day. So it’s discovering what works for you, proper? I imply, is {that a} stroll for me? I do lots of swimming. It’s the one place, hyperbaric and swimming, it’s the one place no person can trouble me and get to me. So these are massive stress relievers for me, however you have to discover what works for you, your downtime.
After which the infections are these persistent infections comparable to Epstein-Barr, herpes, these latent infections that may reactivate a persistent Lyme and coping with these infections. And, you already know, I can undergo some methods in order for you for these as nicely.
In order that’s the 4 pillars. After which again to therapeutic your intestine, which is among the main components of one of many second pillar of the 4 pillar program. And there’s type of the 4R strategy, which I’m positive you’ve had lots of people speaking about. However once more, the very first thing is to take away. And what are you eradicating? It’s again to those meals. You wanna take away gluten, you wanna dairy. Gluten and dairy are the 2 most inflammatory meals, however sugars, processed meals, meals dyes, GMOs, I imply, you need to get this stuff out of your weight loss plan.
And most significantly, you wanna take away any infections which are in your intestine. And that is totally different than these persistent infections. That is SIBO, Candida, Parasites. And positively in case you have auto-immunity, very uncommon, I noticed anybody that didn’t have one or each of these. And so they’ve now change into, if you happen to’re on social media, all people’s speaking about SIBO and Candida. I imply, again after I was, you already know, you talked about I used to be one of many originals. I imply, I used to be, I imply, again after I was speaking about these things 10-15 years in the past, there weren’t many individuals speaking about this. And I noticed it extensively in my clinic, eliminating SIBO, eliminating Candida. We will additionally stroll by way of how, you already know, I’m completely satisfied to share precisely how to do this.
And then you definitely need to substitute something that’s lacking. So are you low in abdomen acid? Lots of people are, you already know, they’ve been taking acid blockers. You want that acid to kill off Parasites. You want that acid to kill off SIBO, to kill off Candida. You want that acid, after all, to interrupt down your proteins and the remainder of your meals. Do you want digestive enzymes? Lots of people are low of their digestive enzymes as a result of they’ve been consuming horrible persistent diets, or they’ve been on persistent PPIs, or different medicines which have, you already know, prevented their precise, you already know, their pancreas and their gallbladder from really working. So I changed these issues. Generally that’s briefly, generally that’s, you already know, very long-term, however lots of instances as folks start to heal, they will get off of those dietary supplements. However in my expertise, it’s, it’s, you already know, it may be, you already know, intensive on the, you already know, complement and dietary way of life change at first. After which, you already know, as you progress down the spectrum, you may see the place you may unencumber.
You need to… you need to re-inoculate with a very good prime quality, excessive dose probiotic. Now, if you happen to’re coping with Candida, I like to recommend we’ve 100 billion unit probiotic. If you happen to’re coping with SIBO although, I like to recommend a soil-based probiotic as a result of SIBO is Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth and that may typically be an overgrowth of lactobacillus. And most traditional probiotics or prime quality, no matter, have lactobacillus in them and ours do as a result of it’s the primary micro organism in our intestine. And in order that’s the place I differ on these two.
After which we really need to, take away, reinoculate, nicely, I suppose restore. And I’m doing that typically. Your intestine cells flip over each 24-48 hours. In order that they’re gonna restore typically on their very own. However I sometimes advocate that folks do one thing to assist this course of jumpstart this course of. And we’ve a product referred to as Leaky Intestine Revive. It’s really one in every of our primary merchandise. And it’s 3000 milligrams of L-glutamine, which is the amino acid that helps your cells rejuvenate, but in addition what we’ve within the product is lots of various things that assist you to supply mucus. So if you concentrate on your intestine, what’s it? I imply, it’s a mucus membrane. And lots of people are lacking that mucus or have the mucus stage has been disturbed. So it’s slippery elm, marshmallow root, Deglycyrrhizinated licorice to assist your physique create extra mucus in the whole GI tract.
And so these are the 4 issues that I do to assist restore your intestine well being. And sometimes the following query is, do I’ve to do this stuff perpetually? You understand, it actually depends upon the place you’re trying and the place you’re on that spectrum. And, you already know, I take Leaky Intestine Revive, many, many days of the week. We stay in a poisonous world and I simply, you already know, to maintain myself in addition to a probiotic and digestive enzyme, so.
Katie: Yeah. So I took so many notes on that. I really like additionally that you just speak about that simplification course of that always it’s the taking away of the publicity and it’s not usually that we’ve to essentially accomplish that many difficult issues as soon as we perceive the issue.
And that I really like additionally that you just speak a lot concerning the physique type of being designed to heal and that it regenerates and that it’s meant to maneuver towards therapeutic if we help it in doing that. And that story you informed about her internal speak might be probably the most profound instance I’ve heard of that. That’s unimaginable.
Additionally from a intestine well being perspective, I’d love your type of verify or deny from a health care provider’s perspective. There’s additionally been on like Instagram and TikTok, lots of circulating speak about how we’d like variety in what we do eat to assist type of tradition the fitting steadiness of intestine micro organism. So that you talked about avoiding the triggers like gluten and dairy and legumes, but in addition it looks like lots of us are consuming type of only a very slender vary of plant meals and that we will profit from a wider vary of greens and vegetation and spices which have totally different advantages. Do you agree with that evaluation and issues like fermented meals being useful as nicely?
Dr Amy Myers: Yep, so the quick reply is sure, and I’ll get to fermented meals in a second, and if I get off on a tangent, please remind me. However so yeah, I imply, and likewise there’s even, relying on the place your ancestry’s from as to what microbiota is perhaps in several proportions inside your intestine, in your microbiome. So individuals who stay in Asia or descendants of Asia, Africa versus United States, are you principally European? There are ancestrally totally different microbiota, and so there are various checks. I don’t know if you happen to’re related to one like microbiome or Viome or some place else, so in case you have one that you just advocate. Look, they’re all, it’s fairly new analysis, so there’s lots of debate about how correct this stuff are. They are often useful although, however not solely would you like variety inside your personal intestine, you wanna just remember to’re getting the variety that’s meant to your ancestral historical past.
And in order that may be very difficult, and understanding that, and so utilizing a few of these checks, I believe that they are often good as a information. And sure, if we’re trying again to how we ate, our ancestors ate, they didn’t have the, as you already know, stroll into the grocery retailer or Instacart and have somebody ship your contemporary berries to you all 12 months spherical. We ate a a lot wider number of a weight loss plan and we stopped and began varied issues relying on after they had been in season. And that allowed for variety simply inherently since you ate what was obtainable to you. So sure, I imply, look, all of us, even these of us on this world, proper, the place I imagine I’m, actually we’re busy, we’re creatures of habits, we all know what we like. It’s tremendous straightforward, you pick meal plans and also you repeat them again and again. However sure, ideally we’d all be consuming much more variety.
Again to the fermented meals, I imagine that I differ right here than many individuals. And this once more relies on my expertise as a clinician working with hundreds of sufferers, which is since most individuals, no less than that I noticed with auto-immunity had been coming in with SIBO and Candida, I don’t advocate fermented meals proper off the bat. And this was a really, you already know, paleo fx. I believe that’s the place you and I really met, you already know, and I spoke there for a lot of, a few years, and I’d at all times have folks come as much as me afterwards and say, I began consuming all these fermented meals as a result of all people right here is telling me to do this. And I obtained all this fuel and all this bloating and I really feel depressing.
Nicely, fermented meals is supposed to, I like to consider your intestine type of like as a fish bowl. And it’s fish meals to feed all of the fish, that are the great micro organism and micro organism, I imply, dangerous micro organism. You may have good micro organism, dangerous micro organism, just a little little bit of yeast, perhaps some Parasites in your intestine. In a super world, it’s dwelling there harmoniously in an ideal steadiness. When this stuff get out of steadiness, if you happen to’re feeding in fish meals, then the Candida, the SIBO, they’re gonna eat this up as nicely. So that’s the good instance. If you happen to begin to take a prebiotic, you are taking fermented meals and also you’re studying someplace and you are taking that and also you get bloated, you could have fuel, you don’t really feel nicely, it might be that you just took an excessive amount of, however typically, and you have to begin off slowly, typically that to me tells me that you’ve got Candida or SIBO or each as a result of it’s feeding these infections.
So my advice for my sufferers and what I like to recommend in all of my articles is to carry off on the fermented meals and the prebiotics and all that stuff, eliminate these infections. When you’ve gotten rid of those infections, you’ve gotten your microbiome cleaned out to principally all the great things, then begin including within the fish meals, begin including within the prebiotics, begin including within the fermented meals and assist to flourish and reestablish and preserve that microbiome in steadiness.
Katie: And I do know that it looks like SIBO and Candida are recurring themes. I’m assuming you see these a complete lot in your clinic. Another suggestions particular to these and or simply signs that folks may… to concentrate to, that may be a sign that that may be a very good factor to see in case you have.
Dr Amy Myers: Yeah, okay. So sure, after writing a thyroid e book and an autoimmune e book, the primary factor that folks come to us for is SIBO and Candida. So I’d love to speak about these.
So first, Candida is Candida overgrowth. All of us have just a little little bit of Candida, however that is when it will get overgrown. So what are some set off phrases for me? Mind fog. That if I hear mind fog, primary factor that I’m considering, apart from perhaps gluten sensitivity, is Candida, unexplained rashes, itchy rashes, belongings you’ve gone to the dermatologist, they don’t know after they’re like put a cream on it. That always is candida. Psoriasis, eczema normally has a candida underline. After all, in case you have recurrent yeast infections, you could have recurrent dandruff, issues like that, that’s yeast. So, after which, so fuel, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, you may have any of those, however typically it’s these pores and skin points and the mind fog is the primary factor I consider.
How do I take care of candida? You go on a low carb weight loss plan, a candida authorised weight loss plan, and also you’re not, in my view, consuming these fermented meals. You’re positively eliminating sugars and carbs. After which what I take advantage of for my sufferers, we’ve a candida package and program, so I created two dietary supplements. One, Candefense, and the opposite is Caprylic Acid. Caprylic Acid comes from coconut. It’s the acid within the coconut, so it type of pokes these holes within the E-cell wall. After which the candefense is enzymes that digest the cell wall. And then you definitely re-inoculate with actually good high quality excessive probiotics. Now we have 100 billion unit probiotic. In order that’s my Candida.
SIBO is Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth. And the triggers that I hear there are bloating is actually the most important one. I wakened, my abdomen was flat. I ate one meal. I regarded six months pregnant. Rosacea is an enormous one for that one. After which the opposite is most individuals consider SIBO as having diarrhea, but it surely really may cause constipation in lots of people.
And there may be additionally a SIBO Hashimoto’s connection, as a result of in case you have low thyroid, then your digestion slows down, the meals is left in your intestine longer, after which the micro organism there go in to digest and so they’re simply creating these totally different gasses. After which it’s additionally a 3 step program. The weight loss plan is similar to the Candida one. In reality, you may principally use the identical and we frequently have individuals who come to us and so they’re treating each on the identical time and I’ll be completely satisfied to handle how to do this as a result of it’s barely totally different if you’re making an attempt to do each.
So weight loss plan, you wanna starve the yeast, I imply, starve the SIBO. You then wanna prune again the SIBO with microbe. We use a herb microbe clear. Now, in case you are seeing a doctor as a result of this has change into extra well known and there may be an antibiotic, Zifaxin, which I’ve taken a number of instances. I’ve given it to my sufferers. It’s one of many few antibiotics I prescribe, very particular to the intestine. It does typically work very nicely. Nonetheless, it’s very costly and most insurance coverage doesn’t cowl it. In order that’s why I created the micro clear as a result of I had all these folks in my clinic that might not afford to pay hundreds of {dollars} for this antibiotic. I imply, some had been so determined. They did, however the herbs work very well. It’s, you already know, berberine, wormwood, black walnut, a bunch of, herbs that simply type of pr need to kill all of your good micro organism. An excessive amount of of a very good factor created a foul state of affairs, to kill again a number of the you need to re inoculate you re-inoculate as I said. So if you happen to wanna deal with each on the identical time, what I like to recommend is it’s primarily the identical weight loss plan. After which you may take the MicroClear, the Caprylic Acid and the Candefenol all at one time. You’ll be able to work your method up and we clarify how to do this. After which what you wanna do first is to take the soil-based probiotic and ensure you’ve gotten rid of the SIBO first. And after getting, you’ll then take the billion unit probiotic after that. So it will be like a 30 days as an alternative of and are type of 30 days, you’re doing 60 days of all of this.
Katie: That is smart.
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And I’m glad that you just introduced up enzymes as nicely, as a result of that was on my record to ask you about. It looks like it’s not even simply what we eat essentially, but in addition how a lot we will digest and take in of what we eat. And it looks like I’m seeing extra in analysis and from folks I do know such as you, speaking concerning the significance of enzymes, which might actually be useful as we become old, or if we’ve particular situations particularly. I see that in minerals as recurring themes proper now. It looks like many individuals have struggles in each of these areas. Do you discover these are frequent in your sufferers as nicely?
Dr Amy Myers: Completely. So simply to be clear, the enzymes I used to be referring to within the within the candefense are enzymes that break down the yeast cell wall. However I sure, our digestive enzymes are one in every of our prime sellers as a result of so many individuals do have these points of getting been on persistent medicines and whatnot. And I at all times mentioned in my clinic, it’s not the saying the outdated saying that you just at all times heard you’re what you eat. It’s really you’re what you digest and take in. So there have been loads of folks once more, as a result of they learn the books earlier than they got here or they met me at paleofx and so they had been already coming in consuming these actually good diets. However then I’d do lab testing on them to have a look at their minerals, to have a look at their vitamin ranges, to look intracellularly at what was happening. And so they weren’t getting the advantage of this. So that you may be consuming one of the best weight loss plan on this planet. However if you happen to then can now not digest and take in it, in case you have low abdomen acid and also you’re not breaking down the proteins into amino acids, then you definitely’re not absorbing it. If you happen to don’t have what you have to break down carbs and fat, you might not be absorbing it.
Or, you already know, in case you have that after which it will get all the best way all the way down to your small gut and then you definitely’ve obtained SIBO disrupting it, or you could have leaky intestine and then you definitely’re not absorbing these. So I imply, the intestine, I at all times say is the muse and the gateway to your well being. I imply, in case your intestine shouldn’t be functionally on all ranges at an optimum stage, you’re both have already got issues otherwise you’re going to have issues. And that’s the reason as a result of I communicate a lot about this, despite the fact that I’ve written these different books, I believe folks come to me for intestine as a result of I simply noticed it time and time once more, and individuals who had no digestive points. I imply, individuals who got here in and mentioned, oh, no, no, I’m consuming this nice weight loss plan. You understand, I’ve two bowel actions a day. I don’t have any fuel. I don’t have any bloating. I’m advantageous.
After which we do a complete stool take a look at. We’d see their digestive enzymes are low. We’d see they’ve vegetable fibers of their stool. We see, you already know, we see their amino acids are low. And I might see it in all of those useful labs, not standard labs, however useful labs of how, you already know, they thought that their intestine was advantageous. And so they had been consuming this unimaginable weight loss plan, however with out having their pure inherent capability to interrupt down and digest and take in issues, take in their vitamins, they had been then poor in these.
And, you already know, by way of mineral deficiency, I believe that that’s most likely twofold. One, our meals may be very totally different than it was for our ancestors. There are lots of, many research that I do know you’re conscious of, of. You understand, our soil shouldn’t be as nutrient dense because it was earlier than. So then the vegetation arising out of the soil should not have the identical stage of vitamins they used to have. After which once more, we’re dwelling on this poisonous world, our guts are leaky. In order that’s resulting in mineral and vitamin deficiencies. And it’s frankly why I like to recommend all people take a multivitamin each day. I imply, I’ve an article on this about all the explanations all people must be taking a multivitamin due to what we’re simply discussing, the soil, the nutrient stage in our meals, our leaky guts, our lack of ability to digest and take in.
Katie: Yeah, I’m glad that you just obtained to clarify that so comprehensively, as a result of I’ve questioned if that is really one other lacking piece due to the depletion of our meals provide and why we’ll see individuals who look like in actually good well being who may have these random situations that appear to return out of nowhere. And it looks like no less than a few of them might be linked to mineral deficiencies that folks wouldn’t essentially even concentrate on. So I’m so glad that we obtained to speak about that.
I’d additionally love to listen to any suggestions that you’ll be able to simply type of typically give to your sufferers or you could give listed here are type of the 80/20 that transfer us towards optimum or that appear to be comparatively universally useful. One I’ve given on right here again and again, as an example, is the significance of pure gentle, which is free. I’ve seen an enormous distinction even in my labs from getting morning daylight and just a little little bit of mid day, noon daylight day-after-day, which is smart after we think about that our our bodies have {an electrical} element and that we’d like gentle for therefore many issues to occur inside our physique.
However I’m positive that you’ve got a way more complete record. So for anyone who’s making an attempt to maneuver that needle towards optimum, what can be a number of the issues on that record for you?
Dr Amy Myers: So I suppose after we had been speaking about toxins, I didn’t end my considered saying that, you mentioned 80-20 and my thoughts simply went to the 80-20 rule. So let me go to toxins after which I’ll speak about weight loss plan.
Toxins, so we’ve a house, and I perceive not all people can have this stuff, however we’ve a house air filtration system, water filtration system, all of this stuff that I talked about, we solely eat natural in our home. And that’s in order that after I exit into the world, I make one of the best selections that I can, however I acknowledge that I journey. I’ve a baby. We, you already know, I used to be telling you, we had been at a water park yesterday. They mentioned no exterior meals. We introduced exterior meals. I imply, we simply defined we’ve lots of meals sensitivities, proper? So we’re not compelled to eat that meals, however then I’m in very chlorinated water, proper? I imply, I stay a life, but when in your personal surroundings, you may management what you may management, then you definitely exit into the world and also you do one of the best you could. However there’s no method to keep away from this stuff. And so I positively observe that as a rule. Like, you already know, be as strict as you may in your personal dwelling after which go benefit from the world and do one of the best you may if you’re on the market.
Now, in the case of weight loss plan, there are specific features that I don’t, in the case of auto-immunity and the hyperlink with gluten after which the molecular mimicry and the cross-reactivity of gluten with casein, I don’t advocate anyone with auto-immunity eat dairy or gluten. And so for me, these are non-negotiables it doesn’t matter what. If you happen to had a gun to my head, I’d not eat gluten, or dairy, however so these should not negotiables. However once more, I do suppose it goes again to what you had been saying. If you happen to’re consuming natural or in case you have the freedom or as you’ve moved your method down the autoimmune spectrum, it’s to not say I by no means eat sugar, it’s to not say I by no means eat corn, it’s to not say that I don’t ever eat grains or legumes. I’m in Texas, love some black beans and rice, however I do this stuff occasionally to the place that I do know after I’m ingesting my leaky intestine revive day-after-day or, taking my enzymes after I exit, I can do this stuff, proper? I’m nicely, however I’ve gotten hit with poisonous mould 3 times in my life now. And I’ve moved up that autoimmune spectrum. After which I’ve obtained to get again to very clearly doing issues, um, in a really deliberate method and being far more cautious than after I’m nicely and may, can return down, down the spectrum.
So I don’t know if that totally answered your query or in order for you me to consider another issues which are free. I imply, stress reduction typically is free. My swimming is free that I do. Hyperbarics might not be, enjoying along with your little one, enjoying along with your pet, going exterior in pure gentle, sleep. I imply, the one folks say, how do you do every little thing that you just do? Nicely, it’s solely as a result of I do have a husband that if I must, if there’s one thing taking place with the canines or a daughter will get up in the course of the evening, I want my sleep. If I don’t get my sleep, I transfer up that spectrum on autoimmunity. So sleep is free. Possibly all people doesn’t have the identical help that I’ve, however sleep is a superb free useful resource that enables your physique to heal and permits your physique to detox. And I be certain that to one of the best of my capability that I get a stable eight, if not ten hours of sleep is what I want to actually be optimum in my life.
Katie: Yeah, the virtually 700 folks I’ve had on this podcast, I’m but to listen to a single individual say sleep shouldn’t be vital. It looks like the one universally agreed upon factor. And such as you mentioned, sleep itself is free. There’s heaps we will do to optimize sleep, which I are inclined to prioritize even in my finances as a result of we spend hopefully a lot time sleeping that I really feel like adjustments we make there have advantages and sleep makes all these different issues we’re speaking about a lot simpler as a result of your pure physique is ready to like rebuild and heal throughout sleep. So I really like that as a common tip, one which positively can’t be overstated. So I really like that you just introduced that up.
And as we transfer towards the top, a couple of questions I like to ask. The primary being if there’s a e book or various books which have profoundly impacted you personally, and if that’s the case, what they’re and why.
Dr Amy Myers: Nicely, the one which I considered if you, I knew you had been gonna ask me this query was M. Scott Peck’s The Highway Much less Traveled. I believed I needed to be a medical psychologist, however I learn that e book, in highschool, I imagine. And I believe the factor about it for me is my life has been the street much less traveled. I imply, as you talked about, I used to be actually one of many originals again in useful medication, talking about all of these items. And you must be courageous to do this. I imply, to be frank, I wrote an article simply actually quoting the CDC about issues you may do in lieu of a flu vaccine and obtained reported to the medical board. And it was proper earlier than my first e book was popping out.
I do really feel between the Peace Corps, the Chinese language herbs, conventional standard medical faculty to then going to change into a useful medication doctor that I’ve actually embodied that in my life and simply encourage folks to observe the street much less traveled. I imply, fortunately for folks like your self, you could have helped get the phrase out and broaden the message that useful medication and different issues can be found to folks as an alternative of standard medicine. So thanks very a lot for you following the street much less traveled and getting that out, however letting folks know that you just don’t have to be afraid to journey this street much less traveled. And there may be nice profit on the finish of it that doesn’t contain numerous medicine and a poor high quality of life. It really includes perhaps merely giving up a pair meals, including in some daylight, therapeutic your intestine. And you’ll have an unimaginable life pain-free and drug-free.
Katie: I positively second that e book advice. And likewise thanks to the work of you and so many others who’ve helped make this message rather more obtainable to everybody on the market. I do know I hear from so many mothers who are actually shifting into the useful medication strategy with their households, which is actually encouraging for me to see, as a result of I believe when the mothers begin making the shift, that’s when society actually begins to shift. And I do know you’re a mother as nicely. So I’m actually grateful for the work that you just’ve finished. And lastly, any parting recommendation for the listeners right this moment that might be associated to every little thing we’ve talked about or totally unrelated life recommendation that you’ve got discovered useful.
Dr Amy Myers: That could be a massive query. However I believe the one factor that’s calling me at this second, and I don’t know if you happen to’ve finished a podcast on hyperbaric, and I’m actually not a hyperbaric professional, however I can simply communicate to if you happen to’ve hit a plateau in your autoimmune journey, and also you’ve been working with a useful medication doctor, and also you’ve adopted the issues that I’ve laid out right this moment, and also you’re not getting nicely, look into hyperbaric, I’ve seen probably the most profound, therapeutic from hyperbaric of a girl who was in, I had a plateau with, she was in a wheelchair and it simply referred to as me and I mentioned, go do 20 classes of hyperbarics and name me again. And he or she was strolling once more.
I personally obtained to a plateau in my journey at one level a number of years in the past, modified nothing, solely obtained into hyperbarics day-after-day for nearly a 12 months. All of my autoimmune markers went damaging, they’ve remained damaging. I then obtained COVID, thought I used to be getting Lengthy Haul COVID, 5 classes into hyperbaric and it was utterly gone. And positively anyone coping with lengthy COVID, I’d extremely advocate hyperbaric.
So, that’s, you already know, increasingly locations are popping up you could go type of like a sauna and pay for a person session. This isn’t a plug and you may delete this, however you already know, I’ve an Oxy-Well being one and so they have a hire to personal, you already know, state of affairs in case you are in dire want. And in order that, I don’t know, I used to be simply referred to as to say that as a result of I really feel prefer it’s one thing that lots of people aren’t speaking about now. And I’ve seen some extremely profound, simply life-changing occasions with hyperbaric if you happen to hit a plateau, or simply as a part of your journey of therapeutic, that’s actually unimaginable.
Katie: Superior. Nicely, I do know you’ve talked about a number of of your books and merchandise right this moment. I’ll guarantee that hyperlinks to all of these are within the present notes for you guys. If you happen to’re listening on the go, that’s all at wellnessmama.fm. I do know you even have a ton of instructional assets obtainable in your website, so I’ll ensure you guys can discover these as nicely. Or after all you may Google her identify and it’ll all come up. Thanks a lot for spending time right this moment, for attending to go deep on so many of those subjects and for the work that you just’ve finished for now a long time, serving to hundreds and hundreds of individuals.
Dr Amy Myers: Nicely, thanks a lot for having me and serving to me to get the phrase out. And I actually recognize every little thing that you just do.
Katie: Thanks as at all times to all of you for listening and sharing your most dear assets, your time, your power, and your consideration with us right this moment. We’re each so grateful that you just did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the following episode of The Wellness Mama Podcast.
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